Angus the Hi Speed Eclectus
Posted 28 May 2011 - 05:03 PM
Hundreds, if not thousands, of parrot owners became outraged upon seeing this video, myself included. Petitions were posted online, discussions carried out on forums, and links were passed around like wildlife. Anger spread as we heard that Angus might not even be owned by Justin Lawther, who filmed the videos while driving. Apparently Lawther had found the parrot one morning, and decided to keep it. In December, the Chatters family lost their beloved family pet – a green bird named Angus. They put up signs and placed ‘lost’ ads everywhere, to no avail. As the story of the speeding bird named Angus spread, Carrie Chatters tried in vain to contact anyone that may get her in touch with Lawther, so that she could get her bird back.
Meanwhile, Lawther was frightened by the extensive negative criticism, faded into the background. A group of people managed to make contact with him, by which time he readily admitted he had ‘made a mistake’ and ‘not thought his actions through’ with Angus and the car rides. Lawthers has supposedly owned birds in the past and was taking adequate car of Angus, except for the whole using-a-parrot-as-a-car-hood-ornament.
Angus was seized by the Victoria RSPCA who felt that it was in the birds best interest not to be returned to Lawther, and is still considering pressing animal cruelty charges. Angus is currently in foster care at an undisclosed location and is receiving medical care for a condition that appears to be unrelated to his car capades. Meanwhile, this story takes another interesting turn, as ownership of Angus is finally clearly established. Microchip papers firmly established the fact that Angus was legally purchased in September, and that he does not have the physical characterists, nor the microchimp number of the missing eclectus sought by Carrie Chatters.
The Committee To Save Angus, spearheaded by local Aussie Mel Vincent, has been a great help in uncovering facts about this disturbing story. Mel states that she does not believe Justin Lawther is a bad bird owner, whom she has spoken to several times. Lawther apparently has knowledge of parrots and the proper keeping of them as pets – his vet will also testify that Angus was well cared for and Lawthers did not appear to be a bad bird owner.
All facts aside, I am extremely happy that Angus is safe and that Lawther has seen the error of his ways. Lawther is now protesting the seizure of Angus, and is lobbying to get his bird back. However, this story raises the ultimate question: if an owner takes fairly good care of his birds, but commits one fatal error, does that make him incompetent?
I personally feel like a well educated person would realize the danger of the situation that Lawther put his beloved bird through. I do not feel that Lawther is a bad person, and he may indeed love his bird. However, some mistakes can just not be undone.
From - Emily’s Birds
Posted 28 May 2011 - 05:43 PM
I read this else where that angus was seized by RSPCA.
Not I don't agree he was in good intentions. The whipper ordeal and sudden stops. Any idiot would think this is safe.
He didn care if the bird died. To me that not even close to love.
Thx for the update
Thankyou so much for my WONDERFUL sig macawpower58!!
Posted 01 June 2011 - 01:50 AM
I'm not sure what to think about the man. I watched some video interviews with him, and I really think something may be wrong with him mentally.
Posted 05 June 2011 - 12:07 AM
Posted 11 June 2011 - 05:37 AM
Will folks be coming down like a ton of bricks to tar and feather me?
Any petition to remove Tink from me?
I do not deserve to see Tink anymore?
Especially as I will be going to Taiwan again to see Tink in July this year, and we will be riding that bike as done in all the years I known her.
A video below
YouTube - The approach to Bantianyan with Tinkerbell
Note: In no way am I defending Justin Lawther. His activating of the windscreen wiper with Angus on it sickens me to watch.
Posted 11 June 2011 - 12:49 PM
I sure hope your camera (or Joy's cute little pink one) are with you on your visit to Tink. Have a wonderful time, and don't forget to share with us your reunion, bittersweet as it may be.
Posted 11 June 2011 - 03:08 PM
The exposure of Angus out clinging on windscreen wiper was just insane.
But the comments I read elsewhere that a birdie will get frightened by the rushing winds and the speeding scenery just not the case.
When I had to ride the bike really fast, I had to stop to chuck Tink back into the carrier against her protests as she really wanted to be up front to enjoy the wind.
I drove thousands of km in Oman. Riam loved to see the landscape flashing past at 120 to 160 kph. What was going in their mind I wonder. But they love the speed.
My main grouse on Justin is the danger he exposed his poor birdie to.
Posted 11 June 2011 - 04:18 PM
Shanlung- you are certainly a different case. You clearly love your birdies.
Posted 11 June 2011 - 07:31 PM
Posted 24 July 2011 - 08:46 AM
That said, I want to make it very clear that I believe that if one owns a bird, he or she is the one who should make the determination as to what said bird "likes" and what he/she should expose that bird to. I REALLY DON'T CARE IF ANYONE PUTS THEIR BIRD ON A MOTOR VEHICLE AND DRIVES IT DOWN THE ROAD. It's not for me to judge someone else's bird's limitations. Only the owner knows their bird well enough.
What I find extremely interesting, though, is that BOTH Justin and Shanlung claim that their birds are having fun. Yet, Justin is to be ostracized, at least 6 separate threads were started here on this board, multiple facebook "groups" are started, online petitions are signed, and he gets death threats while Shanlung is universally praised without question as to the dangers that many would believe his bird was in.
Maybe the difference is that Justin is what I would consider an "english hillbilly" who clearly isn't educated, and who only posted a video taken with a crappy camera, while Shanlung tells long, interesting stories and has really pretty photos?
Maybe it's because Justin pretty much says, "all bird owners should try this" and "it's no big deal" (yes, I know, it wasn't in those words but the context is there) while Shanlung admits it's dangerous and says to not try it? In that case, does either position really make it OK? Remember, the actions are the same.
Seriously, I'm not trying to slam Shanlung (or Justin).. I'm simply looking for someone explain to me what appears to be glaring variations as to the reactions made by many on this board? Why is one ostracized and the other worshiped? I mean, I've seen people get skewered for doing a lot less than "allowing" their bird to ride on the handlebars of a motorbike... where is the outrage?
In case whoever reads this still doesn't "get it"... I don't really care what EITHER of the two do with their birds - I am ONLY pointing out some big inconsistencies in the reactions of the members of this board.
One more time for those that have problems with comprehension - I am not judging EITHER of their actions - I'm questioning the reaction of the members of the board in what seems to be a very glaring inconsistency...
Posted 24 July 2011 - 09:43 AM
Kudos to you Shanlung for enriching your birds lives, as you always have.
Posted 24 July 2011 - 10:58 AM
Shanlung took every precaution to minimize his bird's danger.
I've mixed emotions on him getting his bird back. I'm sort of glad the bird is home, but I worry what if the man really didn't lean a lesson from this.
On another note, I've seen friend's unteathered dogs fall from their pickup truck's beds. Once again a clear disregard for danger, yet no one has ever said they shouldn't keep owning their dogs. Perhaps most people feel birds are damaged more easily?
Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:02 PM
A while back, while at work, I watched two stray dogs (well, most surely dogs that somehow got loose, they were well fed and friendly) roaming around across the street. A guy then drives up on his dirt bike, goes inside the liquor store, buys something, comes back out, puts his stuff away on his bike, gets back on it, and then proceeds to chase one of the dogs - scaring the poor dog and forcing him to run off with his tail between his legs.
I then wondered, how is this any difference to my neighbor? Every day, or just about every day, my neighbor across the street, a biker (part of the Mongols) with a potential for a bad temper, "chases" his dog in his car down the street, around the block, and even around the neighborhood. So what's the difference? Well, Rex, the dog, enjoys this activity! He's running in front of the car, his tail high up in the air and he's just going for it! At the end of the "chase," Rex is so tired that he *follows* his owner home. Sometimes his owner gets home first, and 30 seconds or so later, here comes the dog!
I don't see how that (my neighbor exercising his dog) is any different when I do the same activity with my dog, except I'm riding a bike!
The difference is really in whether or not the animal partaking in the activity is enjoying it. If the animal doesn't like what you are doing to them, then you probably shouldn't be doing it.
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