Help taming aggressive bird?
Posted 09 January 2012 - 04:04 AM
He has been home a week. I gave him this week to get used to his new cage and us and our house. I have been sitting my his cage talking to him 3xs a day. All he does is scream and bite the cage bars the whole time! I did try eating next to his cage and offering him bites...He was more interested in biting me than trying the food, but he did have a nibble from his feed dish while I was eating.
Tomorrow I plan on getting him out of the cage and onto the bathroom floor. I want to see if he is going to be aggressive out of his cage as well, or if he is just being territorial about his cage.
Hoping I can get him to step up onto a T stand, and see if he will try to fly off (he's clipped, but flighty) or if he will sit there....
Hoping to try some step ups onto handheld perches too....
Does anyone have any tips on how best to tame an aggressive bird? Have I given him enough time to adjust? I am hoping to make it through the first taming session with all my fingers intact! lol!
Posted 09 January 2012 - 05:22 AM
I would definitely give him out time, and spend some time with him. You should have a large towel with you, if he attacks you/flies at your face or something unpleasant like that, you'll want to be able to catch him quickly. (I've had it happen..with a huge rooster, not a parrot. I almost lost my eyes, but thankfully escaped with a only bunch of gashes and a lot of mud on my face. Work the next day was interesting, I felt quite conspicuous with all my cuts and my swollen lip.)
When you have him out, just let him do his thing. Talk to him, softly, and see if he responds. Learn his body language, and just spend a lot of time with him. He will learn to trust you and see you as a friend if you interact gently with him. The first time, do not push it. Do not approach him until you become more accustomed to his behavior and body language. Just be present, and be talking, and let him wander around.
I really love that you're sitting and talking with him. It's my favorite way to tame birds. I also usually play music or sing. Play different genres, and play both a male and female voice from each one. If you see him responding to a song, play it again, or play a song by the same band. Birds respond well to music, in my experience, and if you can spend time vocalizing with him like a flock member, he will start to see you as less of a threat.
My bird enjoys male voices (she is female) and she loves rock. The louder, and the more screamy and angry it is, the more she likes it. She will jabber like her life depends on it. She likes it most when I sing with her, terrible singing voice or not.
I realize that I sound like a crazy person, telling you to sing with a bird, but it has worked for me. I used that method on an entirely wild bird whom I rescued, and again on a bird I got in august, my starling Angel. She was also not at all tame, but she's a big momma's girl now. You want to be his friend, and by joining in on things he enjoys, he will begin to see you as such.
Also, when you feed him or bring him treats, say something along the lines of "Who's my special baby? Look, I brought you a TREAT, because I love you, -name-." Seriously they respond to that. He will associate you with food if he sees you bring it. He doesn't need to take it from your hand. Just make sure he sees you leave it in his dish for him. If you find a food he goes nuts for, don't ever give it to him unless it's offered from you. Make sure he knows you bring it. Eventually it will be a valued training tool, and you want to make that food extra special now.
Basically..be nice to him. Treat him like the intelligent animal he is and befriend him kindly. It may take time and do not push him.
Good luck- aggression is a hard thing to break and IMO, kindness is the only thing that will.
RIP Angel and Shadow. Mommy loves you.
Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:23 AM
And you don't sound like a crazy person at all...I do 'crazy' stuff all the time. lol! Mostly being goofy with my kids...we dance around and act silly a lot!
I have been trying to answer his flock calls with 'hi' or 'hello' or 'hey' something that I wouldn't mind hearing him say... Hoping that saying words back to him will encourage him to talk....No words yet.....
Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:42 AM
Posted 09 January 2012 - 01:58 PM
He will speak on his own terms, if ever. If you say the word treat when you give him one, he will probably learn to ask for them. I talk to Angel a LOT, and she's learning new sounds. I think eventually she'll put them together into words.
RIP Angel and Shadow. Mommy loves you.
Posted 09 January 2012 - 03:12 PM
For a bird that could live 20, 30, or may be even 50 years, 1 week is not a long time! He's gone from the only home he's known with everything he knew to your home. Prior to coming to your home, he was in a flock situation. He can no longer hear his flock.... and it may be quieter in your home. I bet he's probably feeling rather scared and unsure of his surroundings!
Take that into consideration prior to handling him. Also, if he tries to avoid you when he's out, and he bites, it's probably not aggression. On the other hand, if he goes out of his way to bite you when you don't try to do anything with him, then that might be aggression.
Learn to read his body language. Also, look into positive reinforcement and clicker training. Great authors of media include Barbara Heidenreich, Karen Pryor, Melinda Johnson and Susan Friedman.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:56 AM
He growls whenever we are in the same room with him. I assume growling, puffing up head feathers, and raising wings a bit with them still folded all mean 'leave me the heck alone'? Sure what it looks like anyways.....
wondering if I should have just waited till later this spring when there would have been babies. <bag over head>
Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:22 AM
And once you get him more comfortable he will probably be a wonderful bird.
That does sounds like warning body language to me though.
Just be patient with him, these things take time. I'd suggest opening the door every day and reading nearby for a while. Then close it, and go about the rest of the day. He will get used to you.
RIP Angel and Shadow. Mommy loves you.
Posted 10 January 2012 - 05:32 AM
Get him to associate you with positiveness, remove his favourite food from the bowl and as you pass him drop a few sunflower seeds/millet/whatever his favourite food is into the bowl. Parrots can usually be easily swayed by food.
Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:01 PM
If he does seem that aggressive outside of the cage, You'll need to stick train him, before you work with him by hand. If you're lucky you'll make fast progress over a few days... It does take time. They're all different individuals.
Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:34 PM
Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:46 PM
After getting my 2 new tiels lemontop and hopcorn ... They were very very very scared of me................but just some 2-3 wks ago lemontop started coming over to the side of the cage and trying to interact with me. I took this as a sign and started offering him food through the bars and now he isn't scared of my hands at all.
Seeing this...........hopcorn and birdy were very jealous.both were aggressive. But now after 2 wks of treats they are very less wary of me!!!!
You can also go to this link. theparrotforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=227
Sorry if it doesn't work...............this website is awesome!!!it has many tips and even many ways to trick train your parrot.....
Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:54 PM
I would recommend signing up for the Yahoo group PBas email list. I have been taking the free courses through this group, run by "graduates" of Susan Friedman's courses on applied behavioral analysis. Here's a link to her website: http://behaviorworks..._logistics.html
About half way down is the link to the Yahoo group. It really REALLY helped me learn about how to better observe the most minute behavioral indicators our birds give us that we otherwise miss, to help with changing and shaping their behaviors into something more positive, with no force training or negative reinforcement. Seriously an eye opener into behavior for any species, really.
Charlie the Blue Crown Conure - a paralyzed rescue bird
Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:24 AM
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:10 PM
I have had cockatiels and an amazon parrot before and none have been this difficult. Oh yes he likes some music, etc. but even giving him a treat has to be done in such a way that he cannot reach my fingers or he will bite me rather than take the treat. He is not locked in his cage, the door is always open and he spends most of his time on top of it. He doesn't fly around even though his wings are not clipped, but he is capable of flight. In fact that's why I have him. He was an escapee that showed up on my back porch, starving. I've not been able to find the owner so I suppose he's mine unless I want to turn him over to a rescue center. I've always wanted a quaker but this guy is slowly convincing me that maybe I don't need one after all!
He is a great mimic. Sometimes he mimics me laughing, which makes me laugh. Then he comes out with other laughs that are hilarious and we laugh and laugh. When my son was over working on the house, he mimiced the sound of his drill. But he's talking and such less and less and seems to be going backwards rather than forward here. I have been patient and kind and talk to him, in fact his cage is only about 6 feet from me most of the day. I give him treats, etc. but nothing seems to be doing much good. If my hands are any where close, he's ready to chew me to hamburger. I've tried to show him that hands are good with the treats, but nope. Any help?
Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:15 PM
Or what about removing him away from the cage prior to changing his food and water?
I think clicker training would probably be the best route to go with him.
Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:25 PM
Fear and aggression should be worked with a bit differently, and being able to understand the difference between the two helps to possibly make better progress with the bird.
If a bird wont step up via a hand, they might find a perch less frightening... but some birds are afraid of both or will attack both... so it's a matter of training.
Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:58 PM
Was hoping I wouldn't have to do clicker training. Sounds bad I know, but I've yet to find a treat he'll go crazy enough for to work for. Thank you for the suggestions and insights, Monica!
Edit to add: I have been trying to work with him (I keep saying He but I really have no idea if it's a boy) just a little. I can at least now give him a treat without him trying to take my fingers off. And that accomplished with just excited praise. I'm thinking clicker training treat might end up being excited praise as he seems to respond to that quickly.
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