Concerns about new Cockatiel
Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:04 PM
The next morning I took him to the appointment and that is where everything went downhill. First off, I had not yet gotten a carry cage, so I had to use his big cage, so everything that I’m about to tell you happened in what used to be his safety zone with the only person he even remotely trusted being there but not being able to stop it.
When the vet had come in he asked me what happened the night before and I told him about Rue getting out and about the fact that Rue is not tamed at all and that I was working on building his trust. The vet then proceeded to shove a paper towel (which I don't think rue has ever seen/been close to before) covered hand into Rue's face, causing him to scream and crash around in his cage. The vet yanked him out of the cage and I swear he LAUGHED as my poor bird flew into the walls, doors, monitors, and front flipped over his own cage. When I had gone to get Rue after his first crash landing, the vet told me to "let him go" and all the while he was saying "oh yeah he is a wild one, he is in panic mode, he is just trying to escape its what they do". The vet then grabbed Rue like a football and held him upside down for the entire “exam” which consisted of maybe a check of his abdomen and that’s about all. He also shoved a camera into my poor little Rue and told me that the coloring was fine on his insides and that he was healthy and wasn't injured. He then took my rue into the back room to clip his wings and I never saw the vet again. It was one of his nurses that came back gently holding Rue to her chest, that put him back in his cage. (Bless her, she was the only one that treated us with respect)
I have lost ALL of my progress with Rue, and then some, and now every time I move he gets jumpy. He is all fluffed up and he makes this really soft whimper as well as he is grinding he beak every so often. He also makes his grumpy bird face any time my hands get too close. I’m not sure what to do, my little buddy hates me and its all that vets fault. Is it normal for cockatiels to stay fluffed up after an ordeal like that? I’ve been keeping it warm in my room, and he is eating (NOT fake eating), perching, drinking and everything else he is doing just fine, he is just whimpering, beak grinding and being fluffy. any advice on what to do? He also seems really tired.
PS. I’m NEVER going to that vet again, I’ve already found another one that has been recommended by my mother-in-law.
For pics before and after visit go here----> http://s1174.photobu...ffsaxtoanimals/
Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:49 PM
Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:18 PM
It sounds like your doing everything right, including finding a new vet. Keep him warm and quiet. Flirt with him, do the slow blinky eyes while talking to him softly. By closing your eyes you're showing him your not a threat (aka predator).
Posted 02 April 2012 - 03:12 AM
Posted 02 April 2012 - 05:41 PM
It's a standard procedure to use a towel of some sort to remove birds from their cages. This is to help prevent the birds from biting (although a towel doesn't necessarily need to be used) as well as being able to confine their body parts. (wings & feet).
I *hope* that the vet laughing was just his way of showing he's nervous, not that he actually found the situation hilarious. Either way, new vet is a great choice!
Yes, Rue was in panic mode. From my experience, a bird that has learned that they can't get away (i.e. fly) feels more terrified by being clipped or cornered, so clipping could potentially be a set back for some birds. I've also found that tiels are naturally curious creatures and are very food motivated, so clipping isn't a necessity unless they are a danger to themselves, and if you do choose to clip, do a gradual clip over a drastic clip... That is, a trim that slows them down but doesn't ground them (i.e. less chance of injury due to being clipped).
A common mistake that many people do when an untame bird gets loose out of the cage is to chase them and try to get them back inside the cage. Birds are prey creatures and would find this experience terrifying. It's better to move slow and if you can't get them to step up onto yourself, a stick or a rope perch, then try and "herd" them towards their cage or take the cage to them, talking quietly and trying to reassure them. This might be the reason why the vet said to "let him go". Birds can also find it terrifying to be held against the chest if it's not something they are used to, and probably something that shouldn't be done for taming purposes (but may often be recommended).
Beak grinding is typically considered a sign of contentment, and a way to keep their beaks in shape. Here's an article about basic veterinary care, plus some blogs showing how the birds should be handled while there.
The Well-Bird Check-up
Truman Crashed Into Window and Final Vet Followup Visit (I have not looked at the video)
Annual Well-Birdie Visit to the Avian Vet
How's Rue doing today?
Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:18 PM
As for the clipping of wings, the vet compleatly clipped the wings rather then the minor trim (I wanted the minor trim so if he needed to he could get away from my cat if EVER the situation occured but not to the point that while training he can freak out and fly into a wall. Though I'm taking every precaution to have that NOT happen exe- removing the cat from the room any time the cage door is open) and I am going to ask my new vet how to clip him myself next time I need it done. As for the nurse holding him to her, it seemed to calm him down a lot, he wasn't screaming or trying to get away he was just alert, but I wouldn't try it myself unless he is trained and trusts me.
Rue is doing alot better today but he is still sleeping a lot, but I think I may have found out the cause of that (I think he is scared of his cage cover and its causing him to be unable to sleep well so i'm going to try not covering him tonight to see what happens)
Thanks so much for the information and the links!
Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:21 PM
I hope the new a-vet that you go to handles Rue appropriately. It's amazing the differences when you get the right vet! I mentioned the extra stuff as not many people realize how their actions affect their pets, but you sound absolutely amazing and more in-tuned than many others!
Glad to hear Rue is doing better! Being in a pet store for a while, I can see how a cover may be upsetting him if he's not used to one. I don't cover my own birds, so they pretty much go to sleep with the sun and wake with the sun. I know many owners cover their birds and may have a system of keeping the birds up later than when the sun goes down, or waking them up later than when it rises. Cockatiels are also prone to night frights, so it helps to figure out if they feel best with no cover, covered, partially covered and with a night light, or with out.
Can't wait to hear further Rue updates!
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 05:28 AM
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