Greenwing Macaw having problems
Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:20 AM
Now for some good news...
I got him home and of course he was very scared & on the attack. I ignored him and fed & watered him first, then I sat next to him and watched TV, and talked to my wife. He would attack the cage every time we got up. A couple of hours went by and I started talking to him real softly, he seemed to like that, so I opened the cage door. With in an hour he came out and attacked everything. I just ignored him. He finally came down close to me and looked at me, so I reached out with my arm and he very nerviously got on my arm but he was very unstable, so I took my other hand to secure him so he wouldn't fall and got him on my leg. Long story short, He's a Big O Baby now... He has learned so much in just a couple of months, He watches me kiss my wife, now when I kiss my wife he smooches at us. Now I can't kiss my wife without laughing.
He is eating good & has learned to drink water. I see new feathers coming in but he takes them out. He will eat then regurges. Any suggestions? or comments.
Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:54 PM
You should consider that some of his behavior probably came about as a means to soothe himself when he was distressed in his last home. If you are feeding him correctly for his species (I know macaws need large nuts for their fat content but don't claim to know much about a macaw diet) and are giving him things to do and chew, then over time he *MAY* decide he doesn't need to pluck anymore. But that will not happen right away.
If he is regurging most of his food and especially if he regurges as soon as he eats, I think you should get a vet's opinion. Otherwise, he may just regurg to inanimate objects because it is a habit he developed. Some birds do regurg to people also, so pay attention, unless you want a warm meal. If he is getting very stimulated by you, he indeed may feel the urge to share some regurg with you at some point.
I hope your wife is making friends with him also. I believe it's easier on any pet but especially parrots, if they can be friends with everyone in the house so they don't feel the need to protect their chosen person from others and especially so they don't attempt to drive others away.
Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:33 PM
He had no toys just a rope, I have taken the rope out and replaced it with a new rope and some homemade chew toys, he really likes them. I think your right about its going to take time. He has come a long way in just a couple of months...
As far as my wife, I told her to ignore him, don't talk to him, don't even look at him like I did, but she is hard to train and won't ignore him. She wants to pet him and play with him. So far he has taken food from her but still he goes into the attack mode sometimes when she walks by, but not as much as he did.
I wasn't plaining on getting a macaw at this point in my life but when I seen the bird and learned about his life I had to take him. One guy bought him for hundred bucks from the ol widow, then sold to another guy that knew nothing about macaws. I don't have all the things that a macaw needs to be intertain but I am working on it. I have other birds now and have had a blue & gold before so I do know a little.
I would love to post pics but I can't get them on here.
I think your right about it being a bad habit and will just take time to change. He has changed so much in just a couple of months.
Thank you Kathy, so much for responding.
Posted 04 September 2012 - 11:50 PM
I would suggest a diet such as Harrison's High Potency with their Power Treats - maybe add in red palm oil, avian enzyme or their recovery formula? I would highly suggest speaking with an avian vet about this and perhaps Harrison's as well before making the switch/changes... and of course, the required nuts he should be eating.
In regards to the behaviors, I'd highly suggest looking into clicker training, foraging and perhaps some time spent outside. If he has all his flight feathers, get him a harness to wear. Muscle weighs more than fat, so if he has the ability to fly, you may want to encourage him to fly. Flying will use up energy, which, in theory, will require more calorie intake, thus more food eaten?
Posted 05 September 2012 - 05:08 AM
I have talked to a vet, they said feed him good and see how he does. I don't have much faith in the vets around here. I have lost to many animals to vets.
It seems he has had no exercise what so ever. He does not use his wings for nothing, even if I raise him up and lower him down real quick. He has no muscle mass what so ever. When I got him he had a very small perch, like about half inch around. So he is very unstable on my hand. When I first got him on my hand I had to hold his toes and put my hand on his back to keep him secured, from falling over. He is doing alot better now that I have been working with him. His progress is really going well. Now he jumps from my leg flips over and lands on my chest on his back, and starts laughing loudly, chewing on me, clawing me softly. He is really starting to act like a macaw. I hang him from my fingers upside down, which he had to learn. I have spent alot of time just getting him to trust me when I hang him upside down or just holding him up in the air. He doesn't have the strenth to hold on. I saw him the other day hanging upside down in his cage for the first time. I have taken him outside and he got really scared. He does have flight feathers but there is no way he could fly at this time. I work with him for about an hour at a time, three or four times a day. He gets tired quickly and then he will want to cuddle and or get petted.
I have had recued many birds but never seen one this bad. He pays attention to what I say so intently. I shuusss him and he stops what he is doing. The regurg thing is something that has been reduced a little but still has me concerned.
Who is Harrison's?
Thanks for the info. I will search for the foods you mention.
Thanks again Monica
Posted 06 September 2012 - 07:35 PM
Bird Safe Fresh Foods & Toxic Food Lists + Sprouts
Are there any other avian vets in your area? I, too, have lost animals to vets, but they are only human and mistakes happen. It's not always the vets fault (lost one budgie due to an illness that two vets *could not* find) because readings can be off. False positives or negatives. It doesn't hurt to have a *good* avian vet on hand who knows what they are doing.
It sounds as if he's been coming along well, but his overall health still concerns me. Keep up the work with exercising him, and see if he'll allow you to extend out his wings and do some wing movements.
Harrison's is a company that produced top of the line pellets which provide a lot of nutrients, especially good for birds who have been on a poor diet. You can find their products at the following link.
Avian vet and bird/parrot specialty shops may sell Harrison's if you'd like to buy locally (and there's anything of that type in your area). Otherwise you can buy off the internet. Lately, I've been ordering from Kathie at My Safe Bird Store, although there are numerous other online retailers who also sell products by Harrison's.
Posted 06 September 2012 - 09:48 PM
I will go threw the list you provided and I'll get him on a good diet.
This Bird (Roscoe) will let me do anything to him, I can touch or rub him anywhere, spread his wings, lay him on his back, No Problem.. I got him now to lift his foot so I can file his claws, the beak is off limits. It seems he is starving for attention and wants to be handled all the time, and loves to learn new things like a young child. He is still scared of anything that looks like poolcue, so I wave all kinds of things around him then lay them down. He is starting to play with the things I have waved around him.
I really need to get his beak clipped so I'm gonna take him to Dr. Burge, she is a well known avian vet around here. I have used her before with my Blue & Gold.
Thanks again for the info
Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:21 PM
When waving things around, try to make sure it doesn't it doesn't scare him. You might even teach him to touch items he's afraid by making it a positive experience for him.
Please, let us know how the vet visit goes!
Posted 07 September 2012 - 11:45 PM
How would you feel about letting her work with him when you aren't home, so he can make friends with her too?
Posted 08 September 2012 - 09:08 PM
My wife has been feeding him threw the cage when I am not at home. I told her to sit next to the cage and talk real softly to him and then feed him. She told me he is not getting so agressive now. My wife handles our greencheek & sunconure just fine.
I will be taken Rosco to a vet and I will let you all know what they find.
Thanks so much for all the info!!
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