new mom needs advise
Posted 21 October 2004 - 05:02 PM
We are new to the list as well as new parents to a now 4 month old AGC (Lakotah). We got him on his 3 month birthday. ( I say he but we don't know for sure)
Because my questions are behavior related I think I should give you a little history on Lakotahs homecoming.
My experience with birds is very limited. I have babysat for my neighbors B&G Macaw (2 y/o) and AGC (25 y/o)for about 6 months now, and they are what made us fall in love with them.
Since I work from home, have no kids and my husband works 24 hr shifts I felt as though I could really have the time to create a great companionship. I read countless information on the web and waited 4 months before I made the actual decision. We purchased him from a very loving breeder and he came with the only cage he had ever been in and I still use it.
We live in Tampabay Florida and the after the 3rd hurricane passed by us without much incidence, we felt it safe to purchase him. What we didn't know was that our family in Alabama would evacuate to our house. The first of a long line of unplanned stresses for our new addition.
The 2nd stress was Hurricane Jeanne 5 days or so later, we were without power for 1 week and pretty much all of us had generators running 24/7 and being in Florida with the heat, it's needless to say we were all more than a little stressed. During this time Lakotah was near us in his cage pretty much always. He seemed to be handling the heat a lot better than the rest of us. He was eating and playing and being very charming through it all. He would also come to the door of his cage and just hang out there like "taking it all in". Many times I would scoop him up and hold him close and try to reassure him.
The problem I have now is that he never ever wants to leave his cage. He will sit in the doorway but if you approach him he immediately heads back in. Sometimes if you offer a treat he will stay and eat it, or if you sit down with food he comes right out and will pick it off your plate, then promptly head back in.
The basic commands "up/down" I am failing at teaching him. Whereas my only experience is with birds that perch up/down without hesitation.
I have reached in to get him on my hand but it always ends us with me prying him off the side of the cage. He will perch on my hand and then hang on with his beak or vice versa. If he is out on his gym perch then he flaps his wings as if becoming unbalanced every time I put my hand or fingers under him.
Once he is out though he is really very good and seems happy because he whistles, plays and falls asleep a lot. He sits out on his perch and eats and plays and is very affectionate. He seems to really like when I sit down with him and let him just sit up near my shoulder and he can look around more securely. It's just getting him "up" that's the serious issue.
Another thing is that if we walk by his cage while carrying him, he will lunge for it and once back in he whistles like he's happier than ever but still does things like climb to the top and put his head up as if to say "ok scratch me now" lol . He sure has us trained well.
I had considered hiding that cage during the day. And that's what brought me here..
..am I over reacting.. is he still too young for me to expect so much..have I ruined him by forcing him out too soon..is the cage too much fun (has 4 hanging toys he plays with a lot)..
Well hopefully I covered it all and haven't been too long winded , please any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Penny & Lakotah
Posted 21 October 2004 - 05:29 PM
Anyhow, Ekkies and African Greys are pretty similar in the co-ordination department when they are young like that, so I've been told.
They are clumsy, and they are goofy, too.
As far as the cage thing, I think your bird is just feeling safe and secure in his cage and for now, that's what makes him happy. Be stubborn about the stepping up though. Stick with it no matter what. 4 months old for a Cag (or an ekkie) is really "young", you know what I mean? Don't expect too much or get stressed out if your bird seems 'slow' or isn't as graceful as you imagined he should be.
Believe me, he will get curious and want to venture further away from his cage and more often too, as he gets older. My ekkie is just about 16 months old (this week) and I got him a year ago (also this week) and the change in him is astounding! Hang in there! Keep him eating right, healthy and happy. The rest will come naturally.
By the way, I have a 12 yr old TAG as well. A real sweetheart! I adopted her through a wonderful rescue just a month ago.
And I have a shrimpy little Meyer's parrot too. I love em all.
Posted 21 October 2004 - 06:44 PM
Posted 22 October 2004 - 12:59 PM
I don't have a Grey either, but I can tell you that my macaw - Maia is almost a year, and there are times when she is feeling especially spunky that she refuses to step up. She will look at me sheepishly and pretend that she didn't hear what I said. She's just testing me. We both have very strong female personalities!
I think the cage is a security thing too, maybe if possible only allow cage time for sleeping, and eating - have it in an out of site room with a playstand as the primary hang out. I thnk, given that there has been some extra stress (with the lovely weather you've had down there), it's just going to take time to get him in the swing of things. He is still a baby, and trying to learn what is expected of him.
Glad to see you're here, and also did some research too before bringing him home. With a dedicated parront - he'll be just fine!
& The Fids
Maia - Catalina Macaw
Fluffy - Lutino Cockatiel
Ramone - Salvin's Red Lored Amazon
Jake - Blue Crowned Conure
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