All I'm finding is that the couple that were charged for dumping dead animals said they would be finding them homes, and yet the animals never left the county....PETA employees charged with animal cruelty and illegally dumping dead animalsPeople Executing Tamed Animals! - Blogcritics Culture
So I would be interested in websites that say the shelters were overflowing and they needed help euthanizing pets, not that the shelters thought that the PETA employees [as many news places state] were taking the pets to be rehomed. Perhaps all that information has been buried and I'm just not looking in the right areas???
I don't really see how it is "humane" to be euthanizing animals in the back of a van then dumping the bodies in a trash bin of a shopping center.... although if the alternative was being shot, then maybe I could see that.
my advice is this. You've obviously talked to a lot of people who have made up their mind about animal rights and peta. Maybe you should find a local animal rights group or find out the next time peta is coming to your town to do outreach (I can help you with that) That way you can see first hand what these people are like. I realize that you don't support them, but since you have such a strong opinion you really should get both sides to the story. it's only fair.
either way you seem like a nice person and this just inspires me to do more outreach so I can actually talk and communicate with people face to face.
I did read your post. The two PETA employees, members or supporters, whatever they are or were, were not authorized/certified to legally euthanize animals. Maybe I'm missing something?
What many people may be pissed about is that PETA has the attitude that animals are better off dead than being cared for, regardless of whether or not the animals are being properly cared for... at least that seems like what the website seems to be giving off. A lot of information seems to be of negativity. Like I said earlier, I *KNOW* PETA has done good, and I wont deny that. But I'll take a look at one particular page (out of many, yes, I know...)Animals Are Not Ours to Use for Entertainment
This page is conveying that *ALL* show animals are abused in order to perform, and this simply is not true. There are *A LOT* of animals who are fantastic performers, who learn via positive reinforcement. Karen Pryor is one example, and she's written the book "Don't Shoot The Dog." It is said that dolphins and chickens cannot be trained via negative reinforcement, i.e. abuse.
Or how about this one???Animals Are Not Ours to Eat
[highlight]All[/highlight] farmed chickens, turkeys, and pigs spend their brief lives in dark and crowded warehouses, many of them so cramped that they can't even turn around or spread a single wing.
I wont deny that there are probably places like this, however there *ARE* range free chickens, one farm has waterbeds for their dairy cows, another feeds their dairy cows candy. It raises their milk production. Happy cows.... happy cheese...
A bit besides the point, but I will defend my right to eat meat. I know there's an argument that there's nothing to support that humans are "carnivorous" but I've also heard that there's nothing to support that we are wholy herbivores, either... I feel that it should be *OUR* right to eat meat, or not to eat it. We should not need to be preached to about how bad we are because we eat meat. As far as I'm concerned here, if PETA is so upset about it, why are they not going after the predators who eat meat for a living? Imagine being chased by a carnivore, then being torn to shreds while still alive. Or perhaps having jaws clamped around your throat until you quit breathing. Wild animals do not "humanely" kill their prey. And if PETA wants to make a big deal about it, what about the deer (herbivores) who are killing birds???Scottish Deer Are Culprits in Bird Killings'Herbivores' busted preying on bird nests
I don't mean to be negative but the entire vegetarian vs omnivore is kind of ridiculous. A lot of land is required to grow the grains to feed the animals we eat, which in turn need a lot of land to live on, but a lot of land is still required to feed us our vegetable/grain/legumes too. I'm one to believe more in science, so if anyone tells me that humans are not animals, I saw *BS*! It's been proven that we are closely related to chimps (among some other animals), and we consider chimps to be animals. I fully support those people who hunt for their food, via bows and arrows, shotguns, or what have you. At least with these instruments, if done at the right spot, will result in a quick death. I know it's not always the case, either. My grandfather (RIP) used to hunt deer, and he'd bring the meat home to eat.
Animals on factory farms do not see the sun or get a breath of fresh air until they are prodded and crammed onto trucks for a nightmarish ride to the slaughterhouse----
Again, it's portraying that *ALL* animals bred for consumption are mistreated and abused, and I don't believe it. I can drive 60 minutes in just about any direction and see cows out in fields eating wild plants and some even bales of hay - but most often feeding on naturally growing plants, or at least fresh growing plants. Cows that are outside 24/7 but do have the option of shelter.
My high-school was an agricultural school. That is, the school raised animals, most often sheep, goats, pigs, chickens, maybe even ducks and the occasional cow. There was even a lama. Yes, some of the animals were killed for consumption, as the school did do some catering for special occasions and weddings, but the animals had the option of shade or sun. Ok, so maybe not all of the animals had the option of a 1/3 of an acre or more to move about in, but this is also a small community... the highschool itself only about 200+ students. It takes them years to even raise money to do a good amount of work on the school grounds. Regardless of that, the animals were taken care of. They were fed, and the only overwhelming smell was that of "farm life." There were no huge piles of fecal material anywhere. The animals were cared for.
I realise a school isn't a farm, but there's a lot of farms and ranches within the area. The biggest worry may be coyotes. I know at the highschool the biggest issue was actually the local dogs going after the sheep (hence, they had a lama!). Perhaps though it's because I live on the West Coast and they do things over here "differently" than on the East Coast. I don't know. I can't really recall seeing any farms or ranches on the East Coast, only that a lot of what that page mentioned I have not seen. I'm sure it's probably happening, but I'm not seeing it. I know that just because I don't see it doesn't mean it's *NOT* happening.Animals Are Not Ours to Abuse in Any Way
Or this one... a lot of it I can't really disagree with, because I *KNOW* that a lot of that is true... but not *ALL* animals are being mistreated and abused. What bothers me is all these "blanket" statements like those posted in the above two links. What really bothers me is that there are people who will believe those statements as 100% true and then do ridiculous things.
Heck, you said it yourself! Why repeat it???
again, if you want to know the full stories you should do some research-----It's like high school rumors, everyone just takes what people are feeding them and it's discouraging.-----since you have such a strong opinion you really should get both sides to the story. it's only fair.
I appreciate your reply, I really do! So again, don't take my post personally! I can't support PETA 100% because I can't agree with everything,