Should I get a Electus, B&G Macaw or TAG?
Posted 18 January 2008 - 12:44 PM
c)Generally doesn't develop behaviour issues such as plucking easily. Preferably a peace loving disposition.
2.a) Not terribly territorial over its cage like some Amazons.
Independent( by this I mean can entertain themselves while we are at work) yet loves the occasional petting.
3.) Not very agressive during breeding seasons such as some Amazons.
4.) Not very flighty or scared around children or dogs (highly supervised contact only).
5.) Talking ability
Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:54 PM
You've described an Ekkie down to a T, except the plucking thing. I'm sure you know, but if a stringent diet and routine is not followed, they pluck easily.
Like us, ain't no bird perfect.
It's good to see a level head do his research before bringing a bird home for LIFE.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Mark,,Going thru similar dilemma myself.
Posted 18 January 2008 - 03:23 PM
Posted 18 January 2008 - 04:32 PM
Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:23 PM
my TAGs are a pleasure to have. They get along great with my kids, dog and cat. I would not consider them being cuddle bugs but they do like to be close to you and socialize. AGs are known to be good talkers, but you never know. Mine do not talk yet, but that is fine. They love to play with their toys and do not have a problem being in their cage. I personally enjoy watching two together and the way they interact with each other. That is why I got two at the same time. On the other hand I might run into the problem that they will not accept me in their flock and I lose them as pets. You never know. I know they are happy and are a wonderful addition to our family.
Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:40 PM
1.a) Health: That depends a lot on the care provided. Any one of those birds can be a healthy one.
Temperament: From what I've heard and my own personal experiences, the Eclectus would have the best temperament of the three.
c)Generally doesn't develop behavior issues such as plucking easily. Preferably a peace loving disposition: Sounds more like the B&G Macaw to me.
2.a) Not terribly territorial over its cage like some Amazons: Hmmm.. That's a tuff one. Both my African Grey and Eclectus are territorial over their cage but just not to me. Again, I would lean more towards the B&G Macaw on this one.
Independent (by this I mean can entertain themselves while we are at work) yet loves the occasional petting: This all depends on their upbringing. Both my Eclectus and CAG are content while interacting alone. However, I imagine that it would be the same if I had a B&G Macaw because that is a very important aspect to me. I am sure to add this as an aspect of training/settling in, not overly crowding the bird with my affection or attention, initially but being sure to provide many other interactive stimulants.
3.) Not very aggressive during breeding seasons such as some Amazons: In this case, I certainly would not recommend the female Eclectus or Grey. Again, leaning more towards the B&G Macaw but I honestly don't know of this aspect of them.
4.) Not very flighty or scared around children or dogs (highly supervised contact only): Again, this has a lot to do with how the bird is raised and what it is allowed to become accustom to. I'll say this though, Eclectus usually don't like fast movements which children will most often children display. The African Grey tends to be a one person's bird. Therefore, if it's you that the bird takes to it will be only you that the bird wishes to socialize with.
5.) Talking ability: I believe that both the Eclectus and the Grey has the best talking abilities of the three. I find the Grey to have the largest vocabulary capabilities but the Eclectus is no slacker and is more clearly spoken (IMO). However, it's never a guarantee that any species of bird will talk. While many Greys, Eclectus, and B&G Macaws do talk--many of them won’t ever. Also for those that may, sometimes it may be years before they'll even utter a word.
Many of your concerns can affect any species of bird. Also, you are comparing three total different "types" of birds. You'd just have to be willing to do whatever it takes in either case. The eclectus requires a very special diet and most are sensitive to pellets, artificial color and flavoring. They don't usually adapt well to loud noises and fast movements. They tend to be most susceptible to plucking, wing flapping and toe tapping. The Greys tends to be a one person's bird and is very up front about letting the less preferred person know about it. They are also dusting birds and too intelligent for their own good. The B&G, I honestly don't know much about but when comparing Macaws, it's the GreenWing that is most likely to be recommended to the novice for whatever reason. Also, they are much bigger birds than the other two. That means to me, (i.e. bigger messes, bigger cages, more expensive, etc,). Personally, I wouldn't recommend either of those species to a beginner but it most certainly can be done.
Good Luck with whatever you decide.
Why did the caged bird sing?
Posted 18 January 2008 - 06:57 PM
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Posted 18 January 2008 - 07:42 PM
Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:16 PM
also, a very important thing that you need to know how to do is read the bird's body language. you can avoid MOST bites if you know what to look for. its rare that i get bitten by any of our birds, even the breeders. i can tell when they do NOT wanna be handled, and i leave them alone until they are ready for me. it works great and i dont get bitten
any of the three birds you listed can be wonderful family companions, but you have to decide which will make the best fit in your home. i personally love the macaws more than any other bird, i guess you could say im biased they are the right bird for us, but only you can decide which bird will be right for you. all i can say is take your time, do your research, keep an open mind, and the right bird will come along, and you will know it in your heart when you find the right one
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Posted 18 January 2008 - 11:51 PM
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Posted 19 January 2008 - 06:52 AM
The only trouble is once she matured at around 2 years of age she became a terrible hormonal terror. She actually turned from extremly sweet and trustworthy to attacking me on 2 occassions and biting 2 of my kids very badly (one on the neck leaving a very bad bruise and bite mark and this was on a 15 year old and the other was my then 3 or 4 year old boy who got his finger bitten very badly and it bled. Now she is going into an aviary and we are looking for a boyfriend for her. She still loves to be talked to and loves to watch what we are doing but no one is game to handle her anymore as she just bites without warning. All my other birds at least pin or fluff up or show some sign or something..........Skye just changes from sweet to horror in an instant.
I would recommend you get a male as I have heard they are more inclined to not have these hormonal problems..........but I do have a friend who has a male ekkie who is now about 16 months old and probably starting to become hormonal and she is now having some issues with him.......but she also has the added problem of her relationship breaking up and they are still trying to work it out .........so the bird is in the middle and he is feeling it. I am sure though he will come through fine in the end as long as she handles it well.
Good luck with your choice of bird and I hope it all works out well for you.
I also realise that not all ekkies turn out like this, but I was also very well aware this might happen. I did try everything to try to avoid this from happening but in the end sometimes "genetics" take over and it is in the nature for the female ekkies to be bossy as their society is a matriarchial one .......... the females are the boss. I have also read that the SI ekkies tend to be more "calmer" (for want of a better word) than the RS. Hope this has helped but I am sure many others will give their advise and experience too.
Skye & Gunny pair of RS ekkies
Erik ekkie (my new baby)
Shrekie & Alex pair of alexandrines
Takoda pet male alex
Songa & Lady pair of canaries
Stephen - hubby & all 6 of our children
Summa and Mysta (dogs)
Posted 19 January 2008 - 07:54 PM
Posted 19 January 2008 - 10:27 PM
Sunny - Vosmaeri Eclectus
Skittles - Sun Conure
Posted 20 January 2008 - 01:34 AM
Being owned by a male Eclectus has been very rewarding to me, thus far.
Why did the caged bird sing?
Posted 20 January 2008 - 02:10 AM
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