Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:07 PM
Posted 15 June 2010 - 08:42 PM
Corn, Oat Groats, Soy Concentrate, Corn Gluten Meal, Wheat, Fructose, Soya Oil, Coconut Oil, Raisins
Rice, hulled millet, barley, alfalfa leaf, sunflower seed hulled, sesame seeds unhulled, quinoa whole, buckwheat hulled, dandelion leaf powder, carrot powder
Ground Corn, Ground Wheat, Peanut Meal, Soy Oil,Soy Meal, Hydrated Sodium Calcium Aluminosilicate, Yucca schidigen Extract,Salt, Calcium Carbonate, L-Lysine, DL-Methionine, Mixed Tocopherols
Roudybush Rice Diet:
Rice, Rice Bran, Rice Protein Concentrate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Choline Chloride, L-Lysine, Potassium Chloride, Biotin Premix, Vitamin B12 Premix, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Sulfate
Harrisons High Potency:
*Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Rice, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, *Psyllium, *Ground Sun-Dried Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, *Spirulina, Montmorillonite Clay, *Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.
*CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT
*Ground Yellow Corn, *Ground Hulless Barley, *Ground Soybeans, *Ground Shelled Peanuts, *Ground Shelled Sunflower Seeds, *Ground Lentils, *Ground Green Peas, *Ground Rice, *Ground Toasted Oat Groats, *Ground Sun-Dried Alfalfa, Calcium Carbonate, *Psyllium, Montmorillonite Clay, *Spirulina, *Ground Dried Sea Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Sea Salt, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, d-Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.
*CERTIFIED ORGANIC INGREDIENT
ZuPreem AvianMaintenance Natural Diet:
ground corn, soybean meal, cracked wheat, wheat germ meal, vegetable oil, sucrose, dicalcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, iodized salt, DL-methionine, choline chloride, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract, citric acid, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite, vitamin A supplement, vitamin E supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin K supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine, niacin, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hyd
Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:07 AM
I read that unlike other parrots, Ecletus should be fed diets that consist of only ~10% pellets (and those need to be non-colored, I'm assuming that just means no artificial dyes), with the other 80-90% being fresh or frozen fruit, even baby food, and that the need a high concentration of vitamin A? But how do you know HOW MUCH to feed them, or how much of fruits versus veggies, beans, nuts, etc? I also read that ekkies have a certain propensity for obesity. Someone also recommended supplementing all that with germinated seeds or commercial dried fruit mix. I have a basset so I know all about portion control, but I don't know much about birdy metabolic rates, lol.
Lots of websites LIST what kind of foods are good, but I haven't been able to get a really good idea on feeding portions, or how often they should be fed. I've also been told to get foraging toys for them, or to make them- anyone have any good websites/advice in regards to that? How difficult/picky ARE ekkies about their diets, compared to other birds?
Sorry for reviving all these old threads, I just didn't want to make a million new ones.
Posted 13 August 2010 - 03:46 PM
Most commercial dried fruit mixes contain sulfer, so I am not sure about that recommendation. Fresh fruit is simpler, IMO.
Regarding obesity; the Solomon Island subspecies which I have, are most prone to obesity. RedSided and Vos not nearly as much. Also, if your bird is flighted they are much less likely to become overweight... assuming they do some flying!
A young bird will eat more than an adult. You will figure out what size portion to feed through trial and error, but generalizing, I'd say 1/4 or 1/3 cup of the rice/bean/veg mixture thawed with a tablespoon or two of fresh chopped fruits and some sprouts would make a good meal. If you find food left in the bowl after a couple hours, you offered too much. Also, the wider the bowls the better with Eclectus. They like to see everything that is on the menu. There is less flinging when they can see all the food without having to dig into a deep bowl.
Mine love tofu, pomegranate, cranberries, grapenuts, almonds and popcorn. Can you guess which of these I have to feed sparingly? Grapenuts. This is because most cereals are enriched with vitamins and minerals for humans.
There are many people who keep Eclectus that never feed pellets. I have been feeding pellets for 3 years and do see an improvement in overall condition so will continue. You are correct about the colored pellets: the artificial coloring is not well tolerated. It's not like Eclectus are difficult to feed at all and in fact most of them have a great appetite. You just have to keep in mind that their efficient digestive system extracts everything from all foods they eat, so too much enriched food is detrimental.
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