I am concerned and saddened by the "State of Affairs"
Posted 29 August 2010 - 01:32 PM
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 02:18 PM
These rules look pretty similar to http://www.birdboard...ules-34242.html here. Although Kevin go into a bit more detail on what will happen if the house rules are violated. I like the Cliffnotes version at the end of your rules.
In regards to rules... From another board I moderate (FYI):
Posted 29 August 2010 - 03:10 PM
What needs to happen to heal the hurt, pain, lack of respect, and downright immaturity in some cases, let this heal, and move on ....
1) Back off Roger and the Roger comments if you are not directly involved.
There are things that need to be discussed while Roger was moderator... but that discussion needs to happen with a select few members on this board. Most of us were just spectators, and not directly involved and need to back down to allow the members involved resolve it privately. Anyone else commenting on it only "fuels" the negativity and prohibits the healing process. Please, allow these members the respect, and time to do this.
2) People were banned and there needs to be a general amnesty.
This statement is for Kevin, Emily, and the membership.
Many members, though I love you dearly, "jumped on the bandwagon", got angry and said things, behaved in a manner that I hope our children don't see. In some cases, it was shameful the behavior and anger displayed. Most of it was in direct anger and support for other members involved, and done with love, but you could have exercised maturity and some common sense, lol. These members need to apologize and since you were banned, please send me a pm if you wish to do so, and I will forward them from PC.
In the same tone, Emily, you went on a ban craze in anger and pain just like the membership. There was no difference in the behavior. You were insulted, hurt, and maybe were thinking with the members gone, it would resolve the problem. I didn't my dear. With your position on BB, you have a seat of authority and automatic respect just from sheer position. You should have exercised patience and understanding in human nature and just let some of the comments go. It would have died out. You have to set the example of maturity, love, respect, patience, understanding, and humility to the membership. Sounds like I'm quoting the bible, but then since I believe in it and that's what it teaches us, I guess it's natural. Emily, you also owe an apology.
Kevin, these are my thoughts on the ban. Resolve this issue now with amnesty for all that have been banned, please. There is no right or wrong at this point... ALL IS AT FAULT! There is no one now that has not at one point or another during this whole mess that behaved "perfectly". I understand that lifting of the bans should accompany a period of time that the member cannot acquire any more infractions, but lift the bans and let the healing start... please!
Shame on you, all of you. If you are not directly involved, stay out of it, and please keep your negativity to yourself. Give these people a chance to resolve this.
The things listed above do not seem like major things to achieve, only little steps to a better forum, better communication, respect, understanding, and love. Lets do this and get back to the issue of birds, our passion, our love, and our lives.
With love to all,
Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:23 PM
Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:14 PM
"There is nothing in which the birds differ more from man than the way in which they can build and yet leave a landscape as it was before." - Robert Lynd
Posted 30 August 2010 - 03:50 PM
LOL! I knew this thread looked different than when I saw it this morning! I was trying to figure out what it was.....
Chew is a mod now! Congrats!
This brings up a question that has been rolling around my mind for about a year. Nothing against you at all Chew, I don't know you. I would like to know how mods are picked. I can think of a ton of names off the top of my head that have been here longer, are more active on the board, and have mod. experience from other sites. So how are mods picked? If it's you have to know someone... or have to know a secret handshake or whatever... I'd like to know.
I PM'd you, Kevin, several times about issues and I have never gotten a single response. I've seen a new person come onto the board and be VERY rude to others, and the response from the mod team was to warn the existing members not to respond... or there would be infractions. This has also happened to me with a couple of other members. In trying to resolve the issue in a diplomatic way (and in a way that followed the rules), the issue was taken to PM's. That resulted in another threat from a mod because the person who was being nasty wasn't interested in resolving the issue. Why would they be if they can post something nasty to someone publically and know that the person it's aimed at isn't allowed to respond? I've been a mod and I've had my own message board. It's not rocket science. Playing favorites is great in your personal life, but has no business when running a forum. I would've PM'd you this... honestly.. but I've tried many times without a single answer. When trying to hash it out with mods in PM's, I just get a warning about 'a mod can't be questioned'. Not very friendly IMO.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:30 PM
The vast majority of my time was spent dealing with spam and trolls... Keeping them from wasting your time and keeping productive posting going...
So, what do we need to do things better? I would suggest a "moderator code of ethics." The mods (usually) know the rules, but it is the application of the rules that causes issues. So how about a "code of ethics" which includes items like:
1) if a complaint is filed by a member to admin or another moderator about a particular moderator, then *that moderator* sits out on any decision making with respect to the member and does not PM, file infractions or bans with respect to that member.
2) if a member feels that a moderator or administrator's action is unjustified, then a committee of moderators and/or administrators will be struck to reveiw the action. The committee could request appropriate documenation from the moderator or administrator and if such cannot be supplied then the infraction or ban would be lifted.
3) all members of the forum should feel free to contact any moderator or administrator and be secure in the knowledge that any issue they have will be dealt with in a secure and confidential manner.
4) all moderators and administrators agree to these guidelines both during their time serving as a moderator or adminstrator *and after* they leave the position.
This is just off the top of my head - and I'm certain we can come up with something perhaps more succinct or clearer - but something like this...
I also feel that such a code *should be stickied and publicly available for all members to view*.
Just my 2 cents...
Posted 08 September 2010 - 07:45 PM
Here's an idea, why doesn't anyone who wants to be a mod let it be known, and then the members take a vote on who they want to moderate? I mean, if the majority of posters don't think a certain mod is fair then they just shouldn't be there. Perhaps a bit of a juvenile suggestion, but on initial inspection... it might work? I think it'd be a good idea if mods were switched up every now and again anyways, gives other members a chance to get involved, and keeps from having these ENORMOUS blowups where members are harbouring blame from a loong time ago.
Unless this is settled already, then kay, don't really need to relight any fires as I'm really indifferent at this point. But since I've been on this board there have been members that have always been fair and impartial and I would jump on the opportunity to have them moderate... not based on experience with birds or even time on the board but simply because they seem like they'd rock the position. I don't think a mod necessarily needs to be the ones who have been here for DECADES or has the most exotic pets, just someone who "types" politely and knows how to step on the least amount of toes as possible.
....And I hope Tina comes back, I didn't know where else to say that but I creep all her posts
Posted 11 September 2010 - 05:37 PM
I wish the board the best of luck getting back on track. The forum has a lot of members and it would be a shame for the resource to go away. With so many of the experienced members staying low (or leaving), I've seen an increasing amount of poor advice go unchecked, and that's a real shame too. In the end, when that happens, it's the birds who lose out. I'd love to see more resources go into making this a top notch site again... that has to do with high-quality content, not silly gimmicks like 50 welcome threads a day.
Just my humble opinion. If you check my history, you'll see I'm pretty even keel and reasonable, not prone to melodrama - so I hope my opinion is still worth something around here.
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Posted 11 September 2010 - 07:41 PM
I sure liked you as a mod!
The positions should be filled with people who are fair, knowledgeable, are good at mediating conflict and communicate well. But like I said, most of the people I know who exemplify those characteristics wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole (I know, because I've asked them), have left in disgust (myself included) or have been basically dismissed (I won't comment on that further).
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