Considering adding another Grey
Posted 26 August 2010 - 04:33 PM
What are the benefits (for the bird) of having an avian companion?
How much can I actually expect them to interact?
What are quarantine protocols?
Is there a better chance of two greys getting along if they're both under a year old?
I want to make sure I know what to expect and not to get my hopes up too high (as far as them interacting). I guess another question would be is it entirely out of the question for Averi and another grey to be cagemates since they aren't siblings that were weaned together? I want to do what's best for Averi, but I also want to know what to expect!
Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:14 PM
How much can I actually expect them to interact? At the beginning, not at all. They may whistle back and forth, but as for actual interaction, don't expect alot.
What are quarantine protocols? Quarantine protocols are probably the most important part of the entire process. First of all, keep your new bird in an entirely seperate room from the bird you have now for at least a month to ensure it isn't sick. If you were to bring the birds together before then, and one was sick, the other would most likely also fall ill. If after that month there are no signs of sickness, move the birds into the same room, in seperate cages, and on opposite sides. Let them become accustomed to one anothers sounds for a couple weeks. After that move the cages beside one another and let them become used to eachothers company for a while. Then you can begin to let them interact outside of the cage. Let them meet on unfamiliar soil where there won't be any territorial issues. Only let them meet together for 15 minutes at first. A little longer the second them, and a little more continueing after that. When they seem to get along outside of the cages, you can try to move them into the same cage. Have two different food dishes and water dishes. Plenty of toys and branches for both birds. This way, they can seperate themselves if needed. Watch closely for the first few days for any arguements. But after that they should be good to go. It sounds like alot of work, but in the long run this entire process is beneficial for both you and the birds and it's going to eliminate alot of stress.
Is there a better chance of two greys getting along if they're both under a year old? There is a better chance, yes. But with proper precautions birds of any age can get along.
I want to make sure I know what to expect and not to get my hopes up too high (as far as them interacting). I guess another question would be is it entirely out of the question for Averi and another grey to be cagemates since they aren't siblings that were weaned together? It's not out of the question, but it is a possibility. You can't go into this expecting both birds to get along. If you buy another bird there is no garuentee that Averi will ever like him, but there is a possibility. It could turn out really well, or not in your favor. You just have to be prepared to love both birds, not matter the outcome.
Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:38 AM
I tried to match up a different female with my male and at first it was OK, but he really wanted to be with the other and made his wishes known by trying to remove her toe.
Once I moved him over to the another female he has been very content. They all get along as long as the others, the pair counts as one, don't encroach into/onto territory not their own, cage tops/sides not their own. When I let them all out at the same time I keep an eye on them and listen very closely.
One of the resources I use is: African Queen Aviaries who has some informative articles on her web sight.
Know this, that for the most part, if you pair the birds they will pay more attention to themselves and you will receive less attention than you are receiving at this time.
When you first put the birds into the same area leave them in separate cages but as close together as is possible without them being able to bite through the cage.
Handle them separately one at a time and pay very close attention to body language when next to the others cage as this will tell you a lot about what is going on in their mind .
After about a week, depending on their mind set, as told by body language, you will allow both out on top of their cages at the same time. Have a towel on hand to throw between/over them if there is anything that resembles "bowing up or flexing". Wings will be dropped and held out to the side half bent and there will be a slight rocking side to side. Beware!, they can and will jump at each other claws first in an attempt to get a lock, so pay attention to the signs.
CAGs use their beaks for a lot of things. Getting to know one another is one of them. If you see any of the signs that indicate possible violence let them stay in their respective cages allowing them to come out and mingle whenever you have time to keep an eye on them.
Just like us, we can meet someone and not like them from the very start. It can be mutual or one sided. Well Africans can be the same way, and just like humans someone not liked can be warmed up on.
When this happens you will need to put them into a cage that is not anybodies territory. This way they establish the cage together. One of the ways I did this was to move them to one of their cages that I rearranged with some of each of their toys, but nothing left the way it was before. This will prevent one from thinking that the other is invading. Also put at minimum 2 perches, ones long enough for both birds, in separate ends. This will allow them to separate but not allow anyone to be higher than the other as this will be a dominate position.
Check the site for African Queen above.
The benefits? Well they are very intelligent, 2 to 5 year old child intelligence and require the same amount of attention. If you don't have the time a companion would be a very good alternative. Remember, the benefits are what you make of them.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 06:18 PM
One of my main reasons for thinking Averi will enjoy a Grey companion is due to her attachment to her older sister. Averi stays with her breeders, Dave and Sue, while we are out of town and Averi interacts with her sister Gabi and their other pet Grey Beaker. Averi grew up with Gabi as a role model and they enjoy each other's company. I'm also grateful she gets to interact with other Greys so often. Her attachment to Gabi and Beaker is really what solidified the decision to add another Grey sooner as opposed to later.
I visited Averi at least 5 days a week from three weeks till the time of her weaning. I plan to do the same with our next baby and Dave thinks it's a good idea to bring Averi along. She will get to interact with all the babies and "pick" out her sister. Whickever female chick she likes the best will be the baby we take home.
I also want to mention that not having enough time played no part in our decision to add another. I'm a student and take my classes online and my mom works from home. She is maybe left alone an average of two hours a day and is typically out of her cage for at least five hours a day. My bigger concern is having to leave her the handful of times we go out of town every year. I am hoping having a sister as a "security blanket" will make it easier when we leave because it'll be a constant for her.
No matter what I will love our new Grey for who she is. I wouldn't be adding another if I didn't want one as well. This new Grey is as much for me as she is for Averi. Averi has been the biggest blessing to my life and I love her to death.
Posted 10 January 2011 - 05:02 AM
Find your local AVIAN VET here Please expect no less then the best for your parrots health! http://www.aav.org/search/index.php :clover:
Posted 10 January 2011 - 02:32 PM
He is a small scale breeder who abundance weans his babies, promotes flighted Greys, wouldn't clip before fledging, and really loves the Grey species. Greys are all he breeds, and he owned a pet grey for over 15 years before starting to breed them.
Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:33 AM
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